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Thanks for the report! I will investigate more after the weekend.
As a work-around for now, perhaps try either (1) setting an even lower memory limit explicitly (e.g. SET memory_limit='8GB', instead of the 16GB/24GB you tried before) or (2) splitting up the file load into multiple calls using e.g. INSERT INTO tbl SELECT * FROM hits.parquet LIMIT ... OFFSET .... Neither will be particularly fast but at least it should work.
On the topic of the clickhouse benchmarks, please make sure to use the approx_count_distinct function instead of COUNT(DISTINCT) for better performance on approx distinct counts :)
Is the code that you are using to benchmark DuckDB available somewhere publicly, or could we perhaps have a look at it otherwise?
(Hi, Alexey), I tried this, it went up to 117 GB on a machine with 126 GB RAM when not setting a memory limit, but it completed. When setting the memory limit to 10 GB, it went up to 24 GB but also completed successfully (albeit much slower).
So indeed I would recommend setting a very conservative memory limit for the load (e.g. 10 GB on the machine you're on). Going forward, we need to have a look for the source of those additional allocations.
I'm currently preparing the benchmark, it is in work in progress: ClickHouse/ClickHouse#38437
The idea is to make it easy reproducible (like running a single small script) and also compatible with most SQL DBMS.
So, I've removed all custom aggregate functions and data types.
That's also something for us to look into. But to come back on a point Mark made above, I see you are running COUNT DISTINCT there, which are approximate in ClickHouse AFAIK but are not approximate (ie exact) in DuckDB. Could you please make sure DuckDB's approx_count_distinct for the comparison? Thanks!
This issue was auto-closed, but is actually not fully resolved yet in the master. In #4035 I have pushed a number of fixes for allocation tracking and reducing the number of allocations, which alleviates some of the problems, but the core problem here is actually caused by glibc malloc.
Attached is a graph of the memory usage of DuckDB running on the AWS c6a.4xlarge box using different memory allocators and a memory limit of 26GB. glibc malloc runs out of memory during the compression phase despite DuckDB freeing more buffers than it is allocating, likely caused by memory fragmentation. Switching to jemalloc fixes the problem and lets DuckDB finish.
We need to switch to jemalloc internally to fully resolve this issue and make DuckDB complete the query out-of-the-box without being killed by the OOM killer.
Reacted by ignoramous, Edward Wang, David Corcoran, clarkcaoliu, Allen, In-Kyu Kim and nelo
This should be fully resolved now that jemalloc is merged (#4971) and we stream data to disk optimistically (#4996). Feel free to re-open if you are still hitting the issue.
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alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 25, 2022
The table contains 99 997 497 rows.
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 26, 2022
I tried to add the following lines to the Python script:
But it did not help.
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 26, 2022
I tried to load from the CLI but it also fails with OOM:
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 26, 2022
Changing
parquet_scantoread_parquetdoes not help, although the difference is unclear.Alex-Monahan commentedon Jun 26, 2022
Hello!
Just a random idea, but would it help to create the table first and then insert into it? Create table as select * from ... where 1=0, etc.
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 26, 2022
I tried, but it did not help.
Also tried to switch to .csv.
Mytherin commentedon Jun 26, 2022
Thanks for the report! I will investigate more after the weekend.
As a work-around for now, perhaps try either (1) setting an even lower memory limit explicitly (e.g.
SET memory_limit='8GB', instead of the 16GB/24GB you tried before) or (2) splitting up the file load into multiple calls using e.g.INSERT INTO tbl SELECT * FROM hits.parquet LIMIT ... OFFSET .... Neither will be particularly fast but at least it should work.Mytherin commentedon Jun 26, 2022
On the topic of the clickhouse benchmarks, please make sure to use the
approx_count_distinctfunction instead ofCOUNT(DISTINCT)for better performance on approx distinct counts :)Is the code that you are using to benchmark DuckDB available somewhere publicly, or could we perhaps have a look at it otherwise?
hannes commentedon Jun 26, 2022
(Hi, Alexey), I tried this, it went up to 117 GB on a machine with 126 GB RAM when not setting a memory limit, but it completed. When setting the memory limit to 10 GB, it went up to 24 GB but also completed successfully (albeit much slower).
So indeed I would recommend setting a very conservative memory limit for the load (e.g. 10 GB on the machine you're on). Going forward, we need to have a look for the source of those additional allocations.
Update: Here is the Parquet file metadata
hits.metadata.tsv.gz
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 26, 2022
Ok, I will set the memory limit to 8GB.
I'm currently preparing the benchmark, it is in work in progress: ClickHouse/ClickHouse#38437
The idea is to make it easy reproducible (like running a single small script) and also compatible with most SQL DBMS.
So, I've removed all custom aggregate functions and data types.
Mytherin commentedon Jun 26, 2022
Sounds great! Let me know if the fix works and if you run into anything else.
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 26, 2022
Strange, but it does not work. I've set memory limit to the
psutil.virtual_memory().total / 4.If I load Parquet it does not succeed due to unsupported cast:
If I load CSV it still failed with OOM.
I will try to use 4GB.
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 26, 2022
I will try to split the file into parts.
Update: lowering to 4GB helped.
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 26, 2022
Now I have different error:
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 26, 2022
If I restart Python script after every query (and reopen the database), it succeeded.
Most likely previous queries have corrupted the memory.
hannes commentedon Jun 27, 2022
That's also something for us to look into. But to come back on a point Mark made above, I see you are running COUNT DISTINCT there, which are approximate in ClickHouse AFAIK but are not approximate (ie exact) in DuckDB. Could you please make sure DuckDB's approx_count_distinct for the comparison? Thanks!
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jun 27, 2022
No, COUNT(DISTINCT ...) is exact in ClickHouse.
ClickHouse also has an approximate count distinct, but under different names.
hannes commentedon Jun 27, 2022
Thanks for the clarification, great to hear the default is the exact one.
Fix duckdb#3969: route allocations of the resizeable parquet buffers …
Mytherin commentedon Jul 7, 2022
This issue was auto-closed, but is actually not fully resolved yet in the master. In #4035 I have pushed a number of fixes for allocation tracking and reducing the number of allocations, which alleviates some of the problems, but the core problem here is actually caused by
glibcmalloc.Attached is a graph of the memory usage of DuckDB running on the AWS
c6a.4xlargebox using different memory allocators and a memory limit of 26GB.glibcmalloc runs out of memory during the compression phase despite DuckDB freeing more buffers than it is allocating, likely caused by memory fragmentation. Switching to jemalloc fixes the problem and lets DuckDB finish.We need to switch to jemalloc internally to fully resolve this issue and make DuckDB complete the query out-of-the-box without being killed by the OOM killer.
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jul 9, 2022
Thank you!
ClickHouse is using jemalloc since Aug 2018.
We have found and fixed multiple bugs in jemalloc, and continue to find them, but generally, it works ok.
And glibc's malloc is something that no reasonable software should ever use.
Fix duckdb#3969: route allocations of the resizeable parquet buffers …
alexey-milovidov commentedon Jul 13, 2022
@hannes I've included DuckDB into https://github.com/ClickHouse/ClickBench
Hope it will be interesting.
Mytherin commentedon Nov 11, 2022
This should be fully resolved now that jemalloc is merged (#4971) and we stream data to disk optimistically (#4996). Feel free to re-open if you are still hitting the issue.