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Allow ClippingMediaSource in a ConcatenatingMediaSource2 by adjusting start timestamps #11226
Hi I am trying to achieve the following media composition with two videos - a first video with no clipping applied that is then concatenated with a second clip that has the first 1000ms of playback clipped. The mode for this looks something like:
val firstVideo = createMediaSourceFromUrl(firstVideoSource)
val secondVideo = createMediaSourceFromUrl(secondVideoSource, clipStartMs:1000)
val finalMediaSource =ConcatenatingMediaSource2.Builder()
.add(firstVideo)
.add(secondVideo)
.build()
However, I get the following error "Can't concatenate windows. A window has a non-zero offset in a period." from this line in the ConcatenatingMediaSource2 implementation. I also noticed at the top of the class it specifically says it excludes ClippingMediaSource's from being concat.
I'm trying to understand the way this class works a bit better and why the non-zero offset of the clipped media source prevents it from being concatenated and was wondering if anyone might be able to share some insights on this or if there is a way to achieve this (or the steps I might take to make my own Concat class that would support this)?
From what I have looked at so far this seems to be more of an issue with how the ClippingMediaSource is constructed than with the logic of the ConcatenatingMediaSource2. The clipping media source class creates a clipped sample stream which on its own should be fine, but then the non-zero offset record ing the ClippingMediaPeriod that holds this stream appears to cause the issue.
With that in mind could I create a new clipping media source class (or add a flag to the current one) that ensures the sample stream is clipped, but then has a media period that treats the media as if it is just the clipped subsequence e.g. it has an offset of 0, but the sample stream is in fact reading from the start of whichever subsequence we specify?
Sounds like you explained everything yourself already :)
The media model of ExoPlayer uses "windows" for the user-facing entities and "periods" for the more technical individual stream instances. A ConcatenatingMediaSource2 creates a single "window" with many "periods". The main issue is that this media model only allows a non-zero start position for the first "period" in a "window". This is mainly for historical reasons where the terminology and the model constraints came from DASH periods.
The ideal way to fix this is to make the media model more flexible and allow non-zero offsets for all periods. However, this is tricky to achieve as lots of code in ExoPlayer and many existing apps has been built under the current assumptions.
We considered adding a workaround for the specific problem you mention (ClippingMediaSource inside a ConcatenatingMediaSource2) because it's quite common. The workaround would essentially do what you describe (move the timestamps of the ClippingMediaSource to start from zero). Unfortunately this still leaves some cases unsolved, because once you do this shifting of timestamps, you can no longer easily update the source to start from another timestamp. For example, change the clipping start time, or use the setup to play a live stream with a moving window that changes its start time every few seconds. Still worth to add this workaround to cover the most common cases at least. I'll mark the issue as an enhancement to track this work!
changed the title [-]Why can I not add a `ClippingMediaSource` to a `ConcatenatingMediaSource2`?[/-][+]Allow `ClippingMediaSource` in a `ConcatenatingMediaSource2` by adjusting start timestamps[/+]on Jun 26, 2023
Awesome! Thanks for the detailed explanation @tonihei 🙌
For now I'll try setup a custom ClippingMediaSource class that does this as I don't really need to update the clip start position or use any live streams. But will be great to have this in core for some common use-cases like this! Thanks again!
Just checking I've got this correct @tonihei - by adjusting the timestamps that would mean setting up a custom media source, media period and finally a sample stream in which I'd create an offset for the time the samples should be read at? I've tried setting this up but haven't had much success with it yet and hoping you might be able to easily point me in the right general direction 🙏
It may be complicated to get this right. There is already a TimeOffsetMediaPeriod you could copy (but please remove this max call, which is actually a bug we are currently fixing). And then you also need a WrappingMediaSource that creates these periods. I'm afraid I can't provide more detailed one to one support for this type of customization. Alternatively, you can also wait until we implement it in the library.
Had a look into this issue this week. We'll reuse the TimeOffsetMediaPeriod automatically from within ConcatenatingMediaSource2 to solve this issue in the library. The commits for this probably appear here within the next week or so.
Reacted by Thomas Coldwell, Paweł Nużka and Naruto TAKAHASHI
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thomas-coldwell commentedon Jun 26, 2023
From what I have looked at so far this seems to be more of an issue with how the
ClippingMediaSourceis constructed than with the logic of theConcatenatingMediaSource2. The clipping media source class creates a clipped sample stream which on its own should be fine, but then the non-zero offset record ing theClippingMediaPeriodthat holds this stream appears to cause the issue.With that in mind could I create a new clipping media source class (or add a flag to the current one) that ensures the sample stream is clipped, but then has a media period that treats the media as if it is just the clipped subsequence e.g. it has an offset of 0, but the sample stream is in fact reading from the start of whichever subsequence we specify?
tonihei commentedon Jun 26, 2023
Sounds like you explained everything yourself already :)
The media model of ExoPlayer uses "windows" for the user-facing entities and "periods" for the more technical individual stream instances. A
ConcatenatingMediaSource2creates a single "window" with many "periods". The main issue is that this media model only allows a non-zero start position for the first "period" in a "window". This is mainly for historical reasons where the terminology and the model constraints came from DASH periods.The ideal way to fix this is to make the media model more flexible and allow non-zero offsets for all periods. However, this is tricky to achieve as lots of code in ExoPlayer and many existing apps has been built under the current assumptions.
We considered adding a workaround for the specific problem you mention (
ClippingMediaSourceinside aConcatenatingMediaSource2) because it's quite common. The workaround would essentially do what you describe (move the timestamps of theClippingMediaSourceto start from zero). Unfortunately this still leaves some cases unsolved, because once you do this shifting of timestamps, you can no longer easily update the source to start from another timestamp. For example, change the clipping start time, or use the setup to play a live stream with a moving window that changes its start time every few seconds. Still worth to add this workaround to cover the most common cases at least. I'll mark the issue as an enhancement to track this work![-]Why can I not add a `ClippingMediaSource` to a `ConcatenatingMediaSource2`?[/-][+]Allow `ClippingMediaSource` in a `ConcatenatingMediaSource2` by adjusting start timestamps[/+]thomas-coldwell commentedon Jun 26, 2023
Awesome! Thanks for the detailed explanation @tonihei 🙌
For now I'll try setup a custom
ClippingMediaSourceclass that does this as I don't really need to update the clip start position or use any live streams. But will be great to have this in core for some common use-cases like this! Thanks again!thomas-coldwell commentedon Jun 27, 2023
Just checking I've got this correct @tonihei - by adjusting the timestamps that would mean setting up a custom media source, media period and finally a sample stream in which I'd create an offset for the time the samples should be read at? I've tried setting this up but haven't had much success with it yet and hoping you might be able to easily point me in the right general direction 🙏
Thanks in advance!
tonihei commentedon Jun 29, 2023
It may be complicated to get this right. There is already a
TimeOffsetMediaPeriodyou could copy (but please remove thismaxcall, which is actually a bug we are currently fixing). And then you also need aWrappingMediaSourcethat creates these periods. I'm afraid I can't provide more detailed one to one support for this type of customization. Alternatively, you can also wait until we implement it in the library.thomas-coldwell commentedon Jun 29, 2023
Thanks @tonihei - appreciate your time and the pointers here! 🙌
pawelnuzka commentedon Aug 22, 2023
@thomas-coldwell Did you manage to accomplish this? If so, could you share some sample code?
@tonihei Is there any timeline for the official fix?
tonihei commentedon Aug 25, 2023
Had a look into this issue this week. We'll reuse the
TimeOffsetMediaPeriodautomatically from withinConcatenatingMediaSource2to solve this issue in the library. The commits for this probably appear here within the next week or so.Move TimeOffsetMediaPeriod to its own class
Move TimeOffsetMediaPeriod to its own class
Remove restriction from ConcatenatingMediaSource2
Remove restriction from ConcatenatingMediaSource2
Move TimeOffsetMediaPeriod to its own class
Remove restriction from ConcatenatingMediaSource2
pawelnuzka commentedon Sep 22, 2023
@tonihei Do you have any info when this is released in an updated version of the library?
tonihei commentedon Sep 25, 2023
This will be part of 1.2.0, probably beginning of November roughly. (But there will be alpha/beta/rc versions before that)
Move TimeOffsetMediaPeriod to its own class
Remove restriction from ConcatenatingMediaSource2