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One of the pitfalls that many operators are failing into is that they watch resources with high cardinality like secrets possibly in all namespaces. Besides the security aspect, which may be worth mentioning this has a massive impact on the memory used by the controller on big clusters. Such resources should either be filtered by label or possibly avoided by for instance using a custom resource instead.
Also it may be worth mentioning ResyncPeriod. Setting it to low would also cause the unnecessary consumption of CPU cycles.
@fgiloux just wanted to follow up on this issue. Would you like to contribute on this, or have any suggestions/tips which we could add in the documentation.
@varshaprasad96 yes I would like to contribute. I have however a couple of things higher on my priority list right now, so that I am also ok with another person taking the lead on the subject if someone happens to have more free cycles.
For providing good guidance I would need to experiment, which requires time.
The link shared by @tlwu2013 is really to the point.
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My use case is an operator with multiple controllers for several Custom Resources (Environments and Sites) that are in multiple namespaces across the cluster.
Controller A is configured For(Environments) with Owns(Secrets) and Owns(ConfigMaps)
Controller B is configured For(Sites) with Owns(Secrets) and Owns(ConfigMaps)
The guide says we can override the default cache with NewCache and the example shows &corev1.Secret{}
Does the new cache behave like the default cache but with an override for secrets or does it only cache secrets and the developer must add every resource the controller watches?
The Secrets and Configmaps mentioned in my example above have ownerReferences but it looks like only Labels and Fields are supported. Is the recommendation to add a label to all Secrets and Configmaps owned by the operator or is there a way to use the ownerReference with cache.SelectorsByObject?
@blkperl Yes, the new cache behaves like the default cache but with an override for secrets per labels you create. The watch is in the controller code so not the same as the filter code in main.go when you setup a newManager.
In essence, the controller and the filter filters are two different things. no?
In theory, you should be able to add ownerRefence to the secret label.
Thank you for your feedback on the doc and with your help we can update the doc to make it more clear.
I meant utilizing the existing ownerReference as a field rather than copying it to a label. It's tricky though because it doesn't seem queryable in golang.
k get secret env-config -o json | jq '.metadata.ownerReferences[0].kind'
"Environment"
The approach that I think we might take is using labels.NewRequirement since we have an existing label with an internal id and we don't care about the value.
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jberkhahn commentedon Nov 22, 2021
This sounds like a great idea to add to the best practices section in the docs. Would you be interested in contributing this?
tlwu2013 commentedon Nov 22, 2021
Related info on the c-r:
https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/controller-runtime/blob/master/designs/use-selectors-at-cache.md
varshaprasad96 commentedon Nov 29, 2021
@fgiloux just wanted to follow up on this issue. Would you like to contribute on this, or have any suggestions/tips which we could add in the documentation.
fgiloux commentedon Nov 29, 2021
@varshaprasad96 yes I would like to contribute. I have however a couple of things higher on my priority list right now, so that I am also ok with another person taking the lead on the subject if someone happens to have more free cycles.
For providing good guidance I would need to experiment, which requires time.
The link shared by @tlwu2013 is really to the point.
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varshaprasad96 commentedon Oct 12, 2022
Based on the discussion, the required task for this issue to include docs on how to filter caches using labels in controller-runtime. The original design doc is here: https://github.com/kubernetes-sigs/controller-runtime/blob/master/designs/use-selectors-at-cache.md
asmacdo commentedon Oct 31, 2022
This slide from Kubecon may be helpful
asmacdo commentedon Nov 2, 2022
I've taken this as assigned on behalf of @rocrisp who's not yet a member of the org.
blkperl commentedon Jan 20, 2023
Hey @rocrisp,
We are experiencing high memory usage and are hoping that this guide helps resolve that. I've read https://sdk.operatorframework.io/docs/best-practices/designing-lean-operators/ and I'm bit unclear on a few points.
My use case is an operator with multiple controllers for several Custom Resources (Environments and Sites) that are in multiple namespaces across the cluster.
The guide says we can override the default cache with
NewCacheand the example shows&corev1.Secret{}cache.SelectorsByObject?And thanks for the guide! It's very helpful ⭐
rocrisp commentedon Jan 20, 2023
@blkperl Yes, the new cache behaves like the default cache but with an override for secrets per labels you create. The watch is in the controller code so not the same as the filter code in main.go when you setup a newManager.
In essence, the controller and the filter filters are two different things. no?
In theory, you should be able to add ownerRefence to the secret label.
Thank you for your feedback on the doc and with your help we can update the doc to make it more clear.
rocrisp commentedon Jan 20, 2023
@asmacdo Can you shed more light on the question above? Thank you.
blkperl commentedon Jan 20, 2023
I meant utilizing the existing ownerReference as a field rather than copying it to a label. It's tricky though because it doesn't seem queryable in golang.
The approach that I think we might take is using
labels.NewRequirementsince we have an existing label with an internal id and we don't care about the value.asmacdo commentedon Jan 21, 2023
@blkperl this approach looks right to me.
If it doesn't work come by the channel and someone will help.
If it works, please consider adding anything to the docs that would have helped you :)