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In #338, I've drafted a fix, but before I merge the change, I'm pondering - does this project want to support the requested interface. I agree that it's reasonable to expect a namedtuple subclass to implement all the features of a namedtuple. This subclass, however, explicitly overrides the default expectation that __iter__ returns the values... and it was never the explicit intention that EntryPoint._asdict should work.
I originally made EntryPoint a subclass of a namedtuple as a shorthand to describe an object with three properties. I never intended it to be used as a tuple or namedtuple.
I've only learned in the past couple of years how dangerous it is to use a built-in type because it implements a subset of the features needed. In a formal API such as importlib.metadata exposes, it's important to be explicit about the minimum surface supported by the API... and using built-in types implicitly exposes a good deal of extraneous, sometimes unwanted functionality, violating the "preferably only one" obvious way.
Before embarking on supporting the requested behavior, I think it's worthwhile stepping back to ask - what is this functionality needed for?
Other approaches I'd like to consider:
Drop namedtuple as a base class and instead implement a "simple object with 3 properties" (possibly providing compatibility for behaviors that could be relied upon in the current implementation).
Drop support for non-working or unwanted namedtuple behaviors (through NotImplementedError or AttributeErrors).
Why should this project care about supporting _asdict()?
its really unfortunate the iter "convenience" exists in the first place
That I can agree, and that behavior is deprecated and slated for removal.
its a easy way to debug/trace details for namedtuples (where vars won't work)
in my own code i migrated to always use fields/getattr to wokr around the bug
i took note of the issue when it created a endless recursion in a debug helper
Thanks for clarifying. That doesn't strike me as a particularly compelling reason to keep this particular interface and more a reason to get rid of the qwirky __iter__ and excess namedtuple behaviors. If the debug helper is a one-off, a one-off workaround seems appropriate. If the debug helper is built into an ecosystem like pytest or Pycharm or similar, that to me is a much stronger case to find a solution.
In #339, I lay out the implementation I have in mind. Basically, eschew namedtuple and instead store keyword-only attributes on the object. The __iter__ hack is still there and still deprecated.
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jaraco commentedon Aug 12, 2021
Also bpo-44893.
Add test capturing failure. Ref #337.
Override _asdict. Fixes #337.
Update changelog. Ref #337.
jaraco commentedon Aug 13, 2021
In #338, I've drafted a fix, but before I merge the change, I'm pondering - does this project want to support the requested interface. I agree that it's reasonable to expect a
namedtuplesubclass to implement all the features of a namedtuple. This subclass, however, explicitly overrides the default expectation that__iter__returns the values... and it was never the explicit intention thatEntryPoint._asdictshould work.I originally made
EntryPointa subclass of a namedtuple as a shorthand to describe an object with three properties. I never intended it to be used as a tuple or namedtuple.I've only learned in the past couple of years how dangerous it is to use a built-in type because it implements a subset of the features needed. In a formal API such as
importlib.metadataexposes, it's important to be explicit about the minimum surface supported by the API... and using built-in types implicitly exposes a good deal of extraneous, sometimes unwanted functionality, violating the "preferably only one" obvious way.Before embarking on supporting the requested behavior, I think it's worthwhile stepping back to ask - what is this functionality needed for?
Other approaches I'd like to consider:
namedtupleas a base class and instead implement a "simple object with 3 properties" (possibly providing compatibility for behaviors that could be relied upon in the current implementation).namedtuplebehaviors (throughNotImplementedErrororAttributeErrors).Why should this project care about supporting
_asdict()?RonnyPfannschmidt commentedon Aug 13, 2021
its a easy way to debug/trace details for namedtuples (where vars won't work)
in my own code i migrated to always use fields/getattr to wokr around the bug
i took note of the issue when it created a endless recursion in a debug helper
its not clear to me what most reasonable way to express a entrypoint would be,
its really unfortunate the iter "convenience" exists in the first place
imho it violates multiple python principles just to provide convenience,
jaraco commentedon Aug 13, 2021
That I can agree, and that behavior is deprecated and slated for removal.
Thanks for clarifying. That doesn't strike me as a particularly compelling reason to keep this particular interface and more a reason to get rid of the qwirky
__iter__and excessnamedtuplebehaviors. If the debug helper is a one-off, a one-off workaround seems appropriate. If the debug helper is built into an ecosystem like pytest or Pycharm or similar, that to me is a much stronger case to find a solution.In #339, I lay out the implementation I have in mind. Basically, eschew namedtuple and instead store keyword-only attributes on the object. The
__iter__hack is still there and still deprecated.python3-importlib-metadata: upgrade 4.6.4 -> 4.8.1
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